Hm...different instruments and a little remixed, but it's still that same tired melody.
[Using the argument of bloodlines to block people from privileged positions. It sounds like the same crap Elliot grew up dealing with, in other words- just with a little spin on it]
In Erebonia, almost everyone's human so those kinds of barriers are put up around your bloodline and social class instead. We're a commoner family, so Dad wasn't allowed to join any of the Provincial Armies. And then he worked harder than any other soldier in the Imperial Army to earn his rank. Dad doesn't do anything in half-measures.
[A trait that got clearly passed off to his son, even if Elliot won't openly admit it]
So stubborn as shit and with a spine to match, I guess. Easy to see where you got that from, then.
[Is he joking? It is ridiculously hard to tell since he said it completely straight.]
Not like it should matter. The only thing separating nobles and the common world is someone deciding that they have authority and demonstrating it. To make it just a matter of power for the fortune and a struggle for the rest is just asking for suffering and riot.
[is he being serious? Is he just being difficult? Does he just have a deep-seated distaste for being compared to his father in any capacity, causing him to be obstinate on purpose? It's a mystery.]
Mm, my thoughts exactly. I don't think every noble is bad, I have a lot of friends who are nobles who try to do right by their titles. But a system that prioritized birthright over merit is bound for trouble, injustice and oppression.
[In other words, he loves you Jusis and Laura, but he's still ok with eating the rich]
[Congrats, Elliot, you get to hear Lutha choke on a bit of an actually amused laugh on the thin line of obstinance of that answer. He doesn't bother prodding further with that, though - spirits know he wouldn't want someone doing the same to him.]
Eh, I don't know. Even one that prioritizes merit has a whole damn flood of issues. Depends who's defining that merit, and how. It's not like our nobles are all based on blood. Pretty sure the monarchy would be fine with slaughtering anyone that couldn't fight back, if it wouldn't devastate the food supplies.
Either way, you're going to have the chances of someone with way too much free reign picking the system apart to lean on fear or power or other shit like that. I mean, hell, Celestia's apparently merit based in some ways, and look how they fucking turned out.
[Hey, he actually got something close to laughter. He wasn't expecting that, but it's good to hear! ]
Oh, I know a merit system wouldn't be perfect either. After the Noble Alliance lost the civil war, there were plenty of commoners who took the opportunity to try to abuse the system themselves. Some of them caused damage that'll take a long time to fix.
Still, I think people should be allowed to make their own paths, not be forced to follow something decided for them at birth. Even if it's got problems, it'd be an improvement. [If he had followed tradition, he would've ended up as a soldier, like his father. And hated every moment of it]
Though you're a little off about Celestia. The people of Teyvat thinks the visions and ascending to Celestia is based on merit - but it's not actually true. According to Forneus, everyone's in this world has their destiny written out for them in a constellation. That's why he needed to bring in outsiders to help.
Eheh, sure is! I got plenty more idealistic dreams where that came from too.
[He's grounded enough in reality to know not everything would go smoothly. But he's not going to let himself be shamed into not dreaming for more. But a person has to dream, has to keep hoping for something better. Forward, relentlessly - just as he promised.]
First of all, nobodies can do a lot. So that doesn't matter. This isn't even the most ragtag team I've worked with.
[So don't discredit yourself!!!]
And I do. Not just because I trust him, but because I hear it in the music. Mondstadt is the city of music and freedom, and yet they only have one style of music - the same style they've had for centuries. Even my hometown of Heimdallr has more variety, and that's a pretty traditionalist place as far as music culture goes.
It's like...this world is in a stasis. Something's stunting music from evolving as it naturally would.
[His expression tightens with noticeable disbelief at first. Someone purposeless being able to do anything... Pft. It just sounded like a paradox. What worth did any of them have, other than to fill a space for a bored and restless deity?
But Elliot moves on, and Lutha does his best to unclench his jaw as he leads them into the main square, hesitating only a moment before gruffly nodding to the side to one of the winding sets of stairs.]
Figures that's what you'd judge things on. ["Things that literally anyone could have predicted" for 100, Alex.] It's not like variety always has to be important. Preservation means you stagnate sometimes. [And spirits only know his own land hadn't budged much in the last couple of centuries, either.
...]
Still... for a place that bragged about freedom, I don't see what reason they'd have to stick with what's always been done.
Why do you keep cycling back to that, anyway? You've got to have other reasons for working for all of this besides music.
[He's not surprised that Lutha immediately tries to be contrary. He's getting used to that just being how Lutha is. Sounds like he does get what Elliot means eventually though]
See? Exactly. Preservation's one thing, but I don't think that's what it is. Teyvat isn't engulfed in war or a large crisis. There's no reason art and music shouldn't be evolving - but something's blocking that evolution.
[Which just isn't natural. Music, people, places...they grow and evolve with time. ]
Eheh, well I am a professional musician. Music is what I understand best, so it's how I verified what Forneus told me. [That's all] But it's like I said - I think Celestia needs to be held accountable their actions, and I want people to have a chance to choose their own paths. So if I can, I want to help.
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Hm...different instruments and a little remixed, but it's still that same tired melody.
[Using the argument of bloodlines to block people from privileged positions. It sounds like the same crap Elliot grew up dealing with, in other words- just with a little spin on it]
In Erebonia, almost everyone's human so those kinds of barriers are put up around your bloodline and social class instead. We're a commoner family, so Dad wasn't allowed to join any of the Provincial Armies. And then he worked harder than any other soldier in the Imperial Army to earn his rank. Dad doesn't do anything in half-measures.
[A trait that got clearly passed off to his son, even if Elliot won't openly admit it]
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[Is he joking? It is ridiculously hard to tell since he said it completely straight.]
Not like it should matter. The only thing separating nobles and the common world is someone deciding that they have authority and demonstrating it. To make it just a matter of power for the fortune and a struggle for the rest is just asking for suffering and riot.
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Yeah, my mother.
[is he being serious? Is he just being difficult? Does he just have a deep-seated distaste for being compared to his father in any capacity, causing him to be obstinate on purpose? It's a mystery.]
Mm, my thoughts exactly. I don't think every noble is bad, I have a lot of friends who are nobles who try to do right by their titles. But a system that prioritized birthright over merit is bound for trouble, injustice and oppression.
[In other words, he loves you Jusis and Laura, but he's still ok with eating the rich]
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Eh, I don't know. Even one that prioritizes merit has a whole damn flood of issues. Depends who's defining that merit, and how. It's not like our nobles are all based on blood. Pretty sure the monarchy would be fine with slaughtering anyone that couldn't fight back, if it wouldn't devastate the food supplies.
Either way, you're going to have the chances of someone with way too much free reign picking the system apart to lean on fear or power or other shit like that. I mean, hell, Celestia's apparently merit based in some ways, and look how they fucking turned out.
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Oh, I know a merit system wouldn't be perfect either. After the Noble Alliance lost the civil war, there were plenty of commoners who took the opportunity to try to abuse the system themselves. Some of them caused damage that'll take a long time to fix.
Still, I think people should be allowed to make their own paths, not be forced to follow something decided for them at birth. Even if it's got problems, it'd be an improvement. [If he had followed tradition, he would've ended up as a soldier, like his father. And hated every moment of it]
Though you're a little off about Celestia. The people of Teyvat thinks the visions and ascending to Celestia is based on merit - but it's not actually true. According to Forneus, everyone's in this world has their destiny written out for them in a constellation. That's why he needed to bring in outsiders to help.
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[Not one he entirely dislikes, not that he'd like to admit as much... but still idealistic, as far as he's concerned.
An improvement, just to not be forced to follow something predetermined, huh.
He goes awkwardly quiet as Elliot keeps talking, eyes drifting to his missing left hand.]
Do you believe him when he says that? We're just a handful of nobodies.
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[He's grounded enough in reality to know not everything would go smoothly. But he's not going to let himself be shamed into not dreaming for more. But a person has to dream, has to keep hoping for something better. Forward, relentlessly - just as he promised.]
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First of all, nobodies can do a lot. So that doesn't matter. This isn't even the most ragtag team I've worked with.
[So don't discredit yourself!!!]
And I do. Not just because I trust him, but because I hear it in the music. Mondstadt is the city of music and freedom, and yet they only have one style of music - the same style they've had for centuries. Even my hometown of Heimdallr has more variety, and that's a pretty traditionalist place as far as music culture goes.
It's like...this world is in a stasis. Something's stunting music from evolving as it naturally would.
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But Elliot moves on, and Lutha does his best to unclench his jaw as he leads them into the main square, hesitating only a moment before gruffly nodding to the side to one of the winding sets of stairs.]
Figures that's what you'd judge things on. ["Things that literally anyone could have predicted" for 100, Alex.] It's not like variety always has to be important. Preservation means you stagnate sometimes. [And spirits only know his own land hadn't budged much in the last couple of centuries, either.
...]
Still... for a place that bragged about freedom, I don't see what reason they'd have to stick with what's always been done.
Why do you keep cycling back to that, anyway? You've got to have other reasons for working for all of this besides music.
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See? Exactly. Preservation's one thing, but I don't think that's what it is. Teyvat isn't engulfed in war or a large crisis. There's no reason art and music shouldn't be evolving - but something's blocking that evolution.
[Which just isn't natural. Music, people, places...they grow and evolve with time. ]
Eheh, well I am a professional musician. Music is what I understand best, so it's how I verified what Forneus told me. [That's all] But it's like I said - I think Celestia needs to be held accountable their actions, and I want people to have a chance to choose their own paths. So if I can, I want to help.