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[noblerise]

I agree with Rean. Giving it some thought is more than reasonable if you're feeling unsure about it.

Of course, if you're asking for examples of what it feels like, I believe Rean and Elliot will have much better insight than I do. I'm afraid that my asexuality does color it differently.

[motiv8]

Not the worst thing I've been called!

And, um... you might want to turn to Elliot on that one. I'm... let's go with "not great" at figuring out my own feelings when it comes to things. I can tell you what you're probably supposed to do, but "don't be me" is also a key step in that.

[switchaxe]

I am never coming to you for advice ever again smh

[fiddlestick]

Seriously you two?

[USELESS]

Sorry I'm late Ash, I was making dinner.

First of all, the dilemma you're having is very normal! You and Fugo are close, so it's only natural this would come up sooner or later.

I agree you need to think things over, but what I suggest thinking over is what you're desiring from Fugo.

Like do you get excited spending time with him? Do you hang onto every word he say? Would you be happy never having sex, just so long as you could be near him? If you're thinking that kind of stuff, then that's a sign of deeper feelings and worth considering asking him out- if you feel ready for that.

But if all of your desires towards Pat are just sexual things- you're probably just 17 and horny. I'd recommend reading some erotica and having a couple, ahem, private nights - and the feeling will eventually pass without making your friendship awkward!

Does that help?

[switchaxe]

oh trust me if it was just me bein thirsty I would NOT be texting any of you. that is not any conversation any of us want to have.

[Also "reading erotica"? Dude this is the 21st century we have apps for that.]

I just. fuck.

[fiddlestick]

[LOOK HE'S NOT GOING TO TELL HIM TO SIGN UP FOR PORNHUB, JUST LET HIM PRETEND YOU'RE ON AO3]

Haha, I understand. Just figured I'd say that to be clear.

It's okay. I don't think the world will end if you ask him out. Jusis probably won't make you do a shotgun wedding.

[switchaxe]

[...fuck it. They won't judge him, right?]

I just don't think I'm good for him.

[fiddlestick]

Ash

The fact you're worried about that? Shows that you are good for him. Because you actually care about his wellbeing.

And I've seen him at school with you. He really comes out of his shell when he's around you.

[switchaxe]

yeah and me carin' is why I don't think I'm good for him. I'll hurt him

[fiddlestick]

I mean, if I'm honest? The chance of hurting him aren't zero.

But that goes with any relationship. There's always a chance someone will get hurt. Instead of being afraid of that, it's better to figure out either how to avoid that, or what to do if it does happen.

But it's something you and Fugo need to work out. Tell him about your fears, and what you think might happen. Then he can decide if he wants to risk it.

But...you can't make the decision for him. I mean think if he did that for you, you'd be pretty mad right?

[motiv8]

Ash, I really doubt any one of us thinks we're "good" for anyone else. Self-esteem isn't exactly the highest stat in this group, I'm sure you've noticed.

But that's the thing: we don't have to think we are.

If he makes you happy, and if you make him happy? That's all that matters. And you don't get to decide for him whether or not he makes you happy.

[switchaxe]

I'm going end up hurting him Schwarzer

[noblerise]

You are good for him. You care greatly for his well-being and his happiness, and you make him genuinely happy when you're around. These are not small things.

But this is not just about whether you're compatible in personality, is it?

[noblerise]

Elliot, I have one comment and one question.

The comment: you're expecting a lot from Rean, who is oblivious, and I, who has never dated.

The question: is that really how allosexuals handle that?

[He's being genuine with that question, at least.]

[fiddlestick]

Response to your comment: you're raising boys Jusis, so I recommend reading up on what you don't know. Better they hear this stuff from you than getting it from some random tiktok.

Yep! Or at least, it was my try and true method in high school. I went to a military school, where asking out another guy had a more than zero chance of getting the crap beat out of me, sooooo....yeah! I had to come up with something.

[noblerise]

A valid point, though I get the distinct impression that all the reading in the world won't prepare me for certain questions. I've mostly been asking my mother for advice when I could.

[...................]

Elliot. I ask this with all the respect I have for you.

What the fuck?

[fiddlestick]

True, but it helps! If you'd like, I can give you some of the child reading books I got when I was taking care of Hunter. Though admittedly, a lot of those are more about...dealing with trauma, since he had...a lot going on.

[So so so much]

....Yeaaaah I don't know how to respond to that question without it getting depressing. Let's just say military school REALLY isn't the same when you don't have a class like Class VII...or any physical capability.

[noblerise]

I would like to borrow them, though perhaps hold off on the ones that deal with trauma until I need them.

[Heaven knows Jusis will have to brace himself before diving into any that deal with childhood trauma.]

No, I imagine not. A talk for another day, perhaps, if you feel comfortable.

[He's trying to make an effort to really know this Elliot, the good and the bad.]

[motiv8]

Elliot, it took me two lifetimes to figure out I was in love with you.

I may be the master of sappy speeches, but there's only so far I can go on this one before I have to admit I'm less than helpful. I don't want to be a hypocrite.

[fiddlestick]

Well...it was true you were a very very late bloomer, that's true.

What if we skip the first life time and go to the moment that it clicked for you? Can you describe why it clicked for you then? Maybe that'll help.

[motiv8]

[...He's going to be sleeping on the couch tonight, isn't he.]

You kissed me, and it occurred to me that that was not a Friend Thing and in fact the things we had been doing for months were not Friend Things and I was okay with that?

[fiddlestick]

WAIT HOLD UP IT WAS THEN?!? WE SLEPT TOGETHER LIKE AN HOUR LATER REAN AND YOU ONLY FIGURED IT OUT THEN??

[motiv8]

I TOLD YOU. I AM NOT GOOD AT THIS

[noblerise]

If you decide to kill him, I'll be your defense attorney.

[switchaxe]

campsite has a hell of a dump if you need to ditch the body